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day 12 - monday
american soldiers killed seven iraqi women and children at a checkpoint near the southern city of najaf. full story

day 13 - tuesday
marines shot dead another unarmed driver and badly wounded his passenger at a roadblock in the southern town of shatra, south of baghdad.

at least 11 members of the same family - mostly children - have been killed in a coalition air strike on a residential district in central iraq, western news reports say. hospital sources in hilla, about 80 kilometres (50 miles) south of baghdad, said they were among 33 civilians killed and more than 300 injured in the attack early this morning.

i don't understand why there's not more outrage. people seem to be more interested in finding out how their stock is doing or how much money the war in iraq is costing the airline industry. maybe even some of you on livejournal would prefer to see pictures of my ass instead of me talking about this war.

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abraxas365
Apr. 2nd, 2003 05:15 am (UTC)
There's not more outrage because, and this is quite scary, some people expect such things to happen. My dad, for instance, said that every single one of them should eb killed after that suicide bomb that killed 4.

Meanwhile, he supports the Palestinians by saying that Isreal has all of these high tech weapons and the Palestinians have rocks.

People can be quite strange
tamar
Apr. 2nd, 2003 09:46 pm (UTC)
i support the establishment of a palestinian state of some sort, because i think it's the only solution. saying that, i've been accused of antisemitism. me being in favour of a palestinian state doesn't mean i support killing people (by both sides) and such a state should also recognize the right of israel to exist.

some people obviously fail to recognize that things are almost never black and white.
jayfrondo
Apr. 2nd, 2003 08:29 am (UTC)
i think there is lots of outrage but people are resigned to the authorities having their way. i would say the majority of people have sympathy with the iraqi people, but the argument put forward that saddam must be toppled because he is a mad dictator is one that eases a lot fo peoples guilt about the stuff the ysee going on.

we are at a dangerous point. to get to this position of conflict, the authorities have been supremely manipultive and their timing of what information is released and when has been good too. for example, they always knew the war would kill many civilians and be drawn out with stiff resistance, but they said it would be quick in the pre-war days in order to suggest things would turn out smoothly and painlessly, thus helping to dampen opposition to their plans.

there is much outrage and its been interesting to see how the media corporations have adjusted their initial outlook of being very state sided to the current one that is far more reflective of a pissed off public.

so i would say their IS a lot of outrage. but i dont think this means people should stop checking out eachothers asses or posting fun things. my life goes on, as does yours... now, more than ever, we need something to make us laugh and feel good. this doesnt mean that we forget the shit that is going on, nor does it mean we dont care. ill take uses my outrage at the next election.
tamar
Apr. 2nd, 2003 09:50 pm (UTC)
i don't mean that everyone should talk or write about this war all the time and nothing else. but it just seemed that some prefer to pretend there's no war on at all, they avoid the subject, business as usual..

life goes on, sure, but we don't all live on our private island. of course we need distraction, especially now, and i don't mind that at all. and you're welcome to check out my ass anytime. if you can find it.. :)
punkrockgirl725
Apr. 2nd, 2003 09:13 am (UTC)
there is outrage.
and i knew shit like this would happen.
i just dont want my journal to be filled with war things.
i guess im living in a fantasy world, pretending nothing is wrong. but im so sick of debating with people about why war is bad, why we shouldnt go fight. people are so hopeless.
tamar
Apr. 2nd, 2003 09:53 pm (UTC)
i don't want to write about this war all the time either, but sometimes i feel i have to. sometimes i just can't help myself, thinking 'people need to know this'..

i know, changing someone's opinion about the war is almost impossible and after a while we probably should stop trying.
punkrockgirl725
Apr. 3rd, 2003 04:53 am (UTC)
Re:
youre right, people do need to know these things.
its not easy to change someones opinion.
my friends mom is trying to change hers. she keeps sending her all of this pro-war forwards. so my friend has begun to retaliate. maybe not the best way...but amusing...
garaynbow
Apr. 2nd, 2003 10:05 am (UTC)
I personally feel so angered and irritated that "my" country (which is definitely not representing "me")has come to this point. I feel like I have debated everything I can debate and I have said everything I have to say. I don't like where the United States, or the world is headed, but my piddly voice does not mean ANYTHING no matter how many letters I write to my government or peace rallies I attend (and I have done both).

I guess, now I'm sort of just resigned to the fate of the world.

Yes, I am outraged, I just don't know what else to do... and so I go on...
tamar
Apr. 2nd, 2003 09:56 pm (UTC)
i can't imagine living in the states right now. i think i would be even more angry than i am now. i know, we can say everything we feel we have to about this war, but we're kind of preaching to the converted. our voice is ignored by the authorities. others think we're just silly and naive and don't want to hear our arguments anymore.

we're not going to change a single thing. no, probably not. but at least we tried. and no matter how powerless we feel now, it's not going to stop us doing it all over again next time. oh yes, i'm sure there will be a next time..
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