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hearing george w. bush say:
"this country is safer than it was prior to 9/11"
that was only one of a few remarkable things today..

i have a paid account but i never use this poll feature..

do you agree?
no matter where you live, in the united states or somewhere else:

do you think your country (or the world) is a safer place compared to five years ago?

yes
7(10.6%)
no
58(87.9%)


if there's anything you like to add then please comment.


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jimmycheese
Aug. 11th, 2006 02:59 am (UTC)
Holy crap! 100%???

My step brother was a pilot for American Airlines. He was not flying on 9/11, although that was his route. After travelers stopped flying, American laid him off.

Back to your question - even he said nobody is safer today. It looks safer, people think their safer, but it's pretty much the same.

Take care.
tamar
Aug. 12th, 2006 12:33 am (UTC)
i know that the US airlines laid off thousands of employees.
i don't know about the current situation, but i imagine that many of them are still out of work?
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penpusher
Aug. 11th, 2006 03:07 am (UTC)
No one is particularly caring about the general public being "safer." However, I would say that world leaders are a lot safer. So if you want to be safe, get elected to the top office of your country. Since GWB is very self-interested he really meant to say...

"this country is safer that in was prior to 9/11, for me."
tamar
Aug. 13th, 2006 11:37 pm (UTC)
that would be prime minister. even more boring than my current job, if you ask me..
and then there's this: those officially in charge aren't necessarily the ones that have the power.. :p
peregrinejohn
Aug. 11th, 2006 03:50 am (UTC)
An interesting question you ask.
Are we safer or do we feel safer? We felt pretty damn comfy on Sept. 10, didn't we? Soccer moms on cell phones feel safe in their Mongomobiles. A difference worth pondering. Obviously we don't feel safer. It's the are we question that merits thought.
penpusher
Aug. 11th, 2006 04:02 am (UTC)
Re: An interesting question you ask.
How are we safer? I mean, any more safer than on 9/10/01. There's a lot of windowdressing as far as making a show of security, making people take off their shoes at the checkpoints of airport terminals and such. And now mothers have to sip baby formula before they can get on the plane with it.

Maybe you think those maneuvers make us safer. But keep in mind, similar measures were in place before September 11.
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scopo
Aug. 11th, 2006 04:49 am (UTC)
paranoia, combativeness, demonising Muslim citizens, governments deliberately using racial tensions within multicultural societies for their own political gain ... I'm not feeling particularly secure ...
tamar
Aug. 15th, 2006 12:22 am (UTC)
fear in people's minds and the bush administration taking advantage of that fear. and without a strong democratic opposition, a good progressive alternative, i think this could go on for a while longer..
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scopo
Aug. 11th, 2006 07:04 am (UTC)
not to mention NO BOOKS OR MAGAZINES ALLOWED ON PLANES! It's a 20-hour flight from Australia to Europe: we'll all be prepared to blow the plane up if we have to watch the in-flight movies!
mobilemayhem
Aug. 11th, 2006 10:49 am (UTC)
I have been deployed the world over.
Every day we seem to find new people that are pissed off.
Every day they seem to find new ways to harm others.

Can someone stop this world from turning? I'd like to get off now.
xenobastet
Aug. 11th, 2006 11:30 am (UTC)
"[it] is in the eye of the beholder.."
it's all relative.
fozebare
Aug. 11th, 2006 12:48 pm (UTC)
Definitely far worse.. and his idiotic foreign policies have made extermists (from all sides - islamist sympathisers, zionists, and chrisian fundies) run to the aide of their 'causes'
justkj
Aug. 11th, 2006 01:45 pm (UTC)
In my new job I fly every week mostly in Texas, but occasionally to California, Colorado, and Florida; nothing overseas...yet. I do feel as safe as I did before. Planes have been hijacked for many years so I always figured that was a possibility--remote and unlikely, but possible. Of course there is now the added element of it being flown in to a building or blown-up.

Having said that, given the number of flights that occur daily, I do not feel personally endangered. My country and the world? yes I think there is a threat.

If you what to see a humorists look at the problems, check out this post on Scott Adams blog (writer of the carton Dilbert). There may be a wisp of truth in what he wrote.

http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/07/heat_wave.html
dream_xofx_dark
Aug. 11th, 2006 01:56 pm (UTC)
It's not safer, but I don't know if it's measurably less safe. Terrorism is a minor risk compared to car accidents, for example.

Also, you could argue that the World Trade Centre was not safe on September 10th 2001 and that there is now no chance of it being attacked.

I'll be on a plane next week.
garaynbow
Aug. 11th, 2006 04:42 pm (UTC)
Absolutely not... everything that comes out of that man's mouth is hype.
southpawz
Aug. 11th, 2006 09:47 pm (UTC)
You cannot beat your ideology into the minds of others.You may win a battle ,but you cannot win the war.The stakes are higher now than before, there is more hate brewing.
(Anonymous)
Aug. 11th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
why is the total of the votes more than 100%?
tamar
Aug. 12th, 2006 12:38 am (UTC)
i think that happens when the same person gives more than one answer..
inspectorjury
Aug. 12th, 2006 12:49 am (UTC)
Let me tell you a little story that illustrates what I think George Bush did. It was something like this.

One day Little Johnny went outside and noticed that a swarm of hornets had built a nest high in the roof of his barn. The hornets were indeed dangerous but they were not bothering anyone. But, Little Johnny was so very worried about what they MIGHT do, that he couldn't stand it He called Major Freddy's Quick Kill Hornet Removers to make his barn a safer place for his livestock and his family. Now unfortunately for Little Johnny Major Freddy hadn't the resources nor the backing to take out the hornet's nest in one quick strike. But Major Freddy did what he could given what he had, and failed. He REALLY FAILED! In fact all he did was to stir up the hornet's nest and piss them off. Now every farmer for miles around is being stung from time to time. Way to go Little Georgie! er I mean Johnny.
(Anonymous)
Aug. 12th, 2006 10:42 pm (UTC)
I don't think the world is a safer place but why do you blame our president for that?
tamar
Aug. 13th, 2006 10:36 pm (UTC)
i didn't say that. your president is not to blame for everything that goes wrong in this world. let's just say that while he thinks he's part of the solution, he's just as much part of the problem..
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